Tom, Too bad you cannot get the "Nuclear Clock/Doomsday Clock" that the Union of Concerned Scientists publish at the end of the year. That would send PARD to the fallout shelters or breakout the kool-aid.
Every time I see something on PARD or another other anti-business person/group... I still don't get it. My confusion is not based on any of my political beliefs either.
I really don't understand why someone wouldn't want to bring in new business... or competition. Be it Wal-Mart or some other business. I also don't understand how a group can assume the voice of the community.
Granted, I am not a resident of Washington; I still live here 11 months out of the year. PARD never asked me what I wanted.
Taking things down to a basic level of understanding... Wal-Mart wants to come here, because of the derived demand that has been created. They would not put a multi-million dollar store here if no one wanted to shop at it.
If someone could pleaseeeee make sense of all this for me, please do.
I think the best way to explain the opposition to Walmart is that it's a style. That's all. Just a coat that many wear because they want to fit in with a certain crowd. You can tell that this is the case by their insistence on maintaining the pose even when the justifications for it are shown to be fallacious, one after another (particularly when the things they supposedly champion are actually effects that the entity in question has, such as helping the poor and disadvantaged lead more comfortable lives).
I wish that this was truly the end! But from what I've heard on the news the court won't make a decision until late spring or summer of next year and then after that the decision can be appealed to the State. It looks like the "foot on our neck" will continue for a while.
April: Thanks for that information. You probably know more than KMAX who reported Spring or Summer in a report this morning. What do you think that chances of PARD appealing the decision will be. (Assuming the decision goes the direction that I want it to.)
According to state law, judgments and decrees of the Court of Appeals shall be final and conclusive upon all parties except when the Supreme Court has assumed jurisdiction of the cause. PARD would have to petition the Supreme Court to review the decision. It is not automatic. If you look at the recent Supreme Court results of the petitions for review, the chances of PARD being granted such a review are virtually zero.
PARD's greatest concern is going to be attorneys fees. If they lose, as is almost certain, at the appellate level, they will be responsible for the attorneys fees of the city AND Wal-Mart, by state law. That would have to be a factor in PARD proceeding forward with another appeal, which if lost, would result in even MORE attorneys fees.
As April has stated, it is unlikely the decision will take that long to be handed down from the court. But but it doesn't matter, as Wal-Mart can't break ground until late spring anyway. There is much excavation that needs to be done.
Given the very, very slim chance that PARD's case would be reviewed by the Supreme Court, I'm certain Wal-Mart will proceed with construction once the appeals court decision is handed down, especially as PARD would have to get the Supreme Court to hear their case before they could get a restraining order to stop construction.
Will: I can't imagine PARD taking it the Supreme Court but PARD has done a lot of things that I never would have imagined. They are going to have a difficult time being irrelevant.
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Tom,
Too bad you cannot get the "Nuclear Clock/Doomsday Clock" that the Union of Concerned Scientists publish at the end of the year. That would send PARD to the fallout shelters or breakout the kool-aid.
Every time I see something on PARD or another other anti-business person/group... I still don't get it. My confusion is not based on any of my political beliefs either.
I really don't understand why someone wouldn't want to bring in new business... or competition. Be it Wal-Mart or some other business. I also don't understand how a group can assume the voice of the community.
Granted, I am not a resident of Washington; I still live here 11 months out of the year. PARD never asked me what I wanted.
Taking things down to a basic level of understanding... Wal-Mart wants to come here, because of the derived demand that has been created. They would not put a multi-million dollar store here if no one wanted to shop at it.
If someone could pleaseeeee make sense of all this for me, please do.
I am also counting the hours when PARD's foot on our kneck is forcibly removed.
Daniel,
I think the best way to explain the opposition to Walmart is that it's a style. That's all. Just a coat that many wear because they want to fit in with a certain crowd. You can tell that this is the case by their insistence on maintaining the pose even when the justifications for it are shown to be fallacious, one after another (particularly when the things they supposedly champion are actually effects that the entity in question has, such as helping the poor and disadvantaged lead more comfortable lives).
Watching the countdown today is like watching the Death Star blowing up the planet PARD.
I wish that this was truly the end! But from what I've heard on the news the court won't make a decision until late spring or summer of next year and then after that the decision can be appealed to the State. It looks like the "foot on our neck" will continue for a while.
Will: The Appeals Court has sixty days to make a ruling. Typically, they take about 45 days.
April: Thanks for that information. You probably know more than KMAX who reported Spring or Summer in a report this morning. What do you think that chances of PARD appealing the decision will be. (Assuming the decision goes the direction that I want it to.)
Will,
According to state law, judgments and decrees of the Court of Appeals shall be final and conclusive upon all parties except when the Supreme Court has assumed jurisdiction of the cause. PARD would have to petition the Supreme Court to review the decision. It is not automatic. If you look at the recent Supreme Court results of the petitions for review, the chances of PARD being granted such a review are virtually zero.
PARD's greatest concern is going to be attorneys fees. If they lose, as is almost certain, at the appellate level, they will be responsible for the attorneys fees of the city AND Wal-Mart, by state law. That would have to be a factor in PARD proceeding forward with another appeal, which if lost, would result in even MORE attorneys fees.
As April has stated, it is unlikely the decision will take that long to be handed down from the court. But but it doesn't matter, as Wal-Mart can't break ground until late spring anyway. There is much excavation that needs to be done.
Given the very, very slim chance that PARD's case would be reviewed by the Supreme Court, I'm certain Wal-Mart will proceed with construction once the appeals court decision is handed down, especially as PARD would have to get the Supreme Court to hear their case before they could get a restraining order to stop construction.
Will: I can't imagine PARD taking it the Supreme Court but PARD has done a lot of things that I never would have imagined. They are going to have a difficult time being irrelevant.
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